The Millionaire Author Mindset With Stephanie Hale

Forbes recently released this years list of wealthiest authors with James Patterson again topping the list at $94 million. Janet Evanovich was the top earning female author with $33 million. I’m not aiming that high just yet but I certainly don’t subscribe to the ‘poor author in a garret’ myth.

moneyWriting is a joy but it is also a living. I gave up my full-time income as an IT contractor to become an author-entrepreneur so it has to pay the bills.

On a related note, China Mieville (amazing author!) closed the Edinburgh Literary Festival by raising the idea of a salary for authors, amongst other things. In the intro, I talk about why I think this is a crazy idea and why I favor a more entrepreneurial model. I also mention a new opportunity for marketing your book by sponsoring the podcast, as well as an update on my own writing progress.

stephanie haleStephanie J Hale is an author, speaker and entrepreneur. She is the founder and CEO of the Oxford Literary Consultancy where she helps authors to write, sell and promote their books. She also runs the Millionaire Author Bootcamp.

  • How Stephanie got started with writing and publishing. Stephanie was originally a journalist and later did a Masters degree in Creative Writing with Malcolm Bradbury and Rose Tremain. The emphasis was on writing award winning novels, so Stephanie did just that, winning some awards but not earning much money. Later she worked with the Arts Council of England as a Literature Advisor and then worked at the University of Oxford as Assistant Director of Creative Writing. In 2003, she set up the Oxford Literary Consultancy and more recently has held the Millionaire Bootcamp for Authors. So she has progressed from a very academic background to a more entrepreneurial focus.
  • Along her journey, Stephanie noticed that many talented authors fell by the wayside because although they wrote fantastic books, they couldn’t sustain the lifestyle because they earned no money. So often the trappings of literary success didn’t come with the income for a full-time living. Authors could write, but not market themselves or their books. Her aim is to bridge the gap between academic writing ability and the entrepreneurial world.
  • How do authors escape the poverty mindset? You have to want to change your attitude. Art for art’s sake is fine, but if you want to earn money, or if you have to earn money, you have to change your mindset. People want different things – a literary agent, or a film deal, or a 6 figure income. You have to step outside your comfort zone, break it down into chunks but there is also a big leap of faith at some point. You have to be prepared to push yourself and get used to being uncomfortable. When Stephanie’s marriage broke down, she had to make the money so she was forced to change her mindset and through her actions, she transformed her own life. She does have mentors who keep her on track.
  • The ebook revolution is the most exciting time for authors. On Kindle there are around 600,000 books (in UK store) with 12 million Kindles sold. Supply and demand shows there is means authors can have a viable living. Stephanie has clients earning 6 figures from Kindle income.
  • Is successful sales about volume of books or marketing what you have? There are different strategies for different situations. Volume is just one tactic and writing that fast may not be applicable for everyone. Non-fiction authors can use keyword search tool for specific niches. If you take the more entrepreneurial approach, you can use a book as the front end of your marketing funnel and then customers will be drawn into higher priced products, e.g. multimedia products, speaking or consulting. [This is my model on The Creative Penn as well.] To make $1 million, you can get 1 million people to pay $1 or 1000 people to pay $1000, or combinations of this maths. You have to decide on what you what to achieve and then find the strategy for achieving that goal.
  • On self-publishing and the traditional route. It depends on the personality of the author. Stephanie is hugely excited about self-publishing and she loves having control over the process. But some people don’t want all the hassle of self-publishing so in that case, traditional publishing may be the best route. There are a lot of frustrations with both models, and even if you get the top agent and top publisher, you may not see the money anyway. If you are excited about being an entrepreneur and you’re willing to learn PR and marketing, then go for self-publishing. You definitely need time or money. You can do it yourself or outsource to other people.
  • On the snobbery of literary fiction vs commercial, specifically in the UK where there is still an attitude that genre fiction is somehow less important. Stephanie was very keen to break this academic snootiness that she saw in her previous work. She saw the tragedy of authors falling by the wayside because of lack of money, so this snobbery doesn’t help anyone.
  • It’s important not to be precious about your book. Think of your book as a commodity, like a tin of coffee. It’s about packaging and branding. Upmarket with gold edging vs economical vs couples branding. The packaging appeals to people’s emotions. It has to catch people’s attention immediately. 74% of the buying decision is made on the cover and associated material so you need to spend time focusing on the marketing.
  • There are cycles in the writer’s life. During the creative process, your focus will be on writing and creation, but then later, your focus will be on marketing. Stephanie advises you to write a marketing plan BEFORE you write the book. If you’re going to spend all that effort and energy in writing, you’re going to want to make sure it sells.
  • To make $1 million on Kindles, we’d have to sell 500,000 at $2.99 a book (at the 70% royalty rate). As well as a mailing list, Stephanie also mentions YouTube videos even for fiction. She uses an example of an author who identified her target audience as women in their 40s, so the author is blogging and doing videos about things professional women are concerned about. Speak the language of the target market. YouTube videos are quick because you can do a 3 minute video and put it up there quickly. Blogging that is keyword rich is also recommended. I mention YA author John Green who has done amazing things with his channel. Video can help people get to know you and that can be the trigger for them to buy your book.

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Please do let us know about your thoughts on money in the comments. This is an important topic for people writing for a living.

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  1. says

    I love this post. Because it is my main Problem as an IT-Consulter and as an Author. Every time I feel shy to say that my work is worth it. Even to promote myself. I need a lot of courage and my husband support me. For me it is especially a problem of women, I noticed. To make a Marketing Plan helps to get a feeling of being worth the money and to understand how much work I have put in my Know-How as an IT-Consulter or as an Author in my romantic ebooks.

  2. says

    I guess there’s a longevity in making a million bucks with your books one way or the other unless you’re Amanda hocking but I’m still striving towards that goal.

    Hopefully in ten years, when I’m thirty, I’d have made a million or close enough to it 😀

    Thanks for the post

  3. says

    Great post! I am incredibly confident in writing fiction but am a coward when it comes to marketing. Plus I’m prideful and slightly anti-social. Thanks for the tips and the links!

  4. Larkin Hunter says

    I really enjoyed this show, but a couple of times Stephanie mentions “menials” and I don’t know what she means by that. Could you translate that into American, please? Both you and Stephanie have lovely voices, BTW.

    • says

      Hi Larkin – Stephanie used the word ‘mentors’ but her accent was a little difficult :) I did have to check on that myself. I’m glad you enjoyed the accents though!

      • says

        Hey there guys, Thanks for your lovely comments. Glad you enjoyed the interview and got lots from it. The awards are all listed on my profile on Linkedin, Stephen, if you’d like to connect with me there.

        And you can make £1 million+ in 4 years or less Shaquanda if you do the right things. There’s no need to wait 10 years!

        I didn’t believe it when I first started either. But you just have to take the leap of faith and go for it. Wishing you all the success you deserve.

  5. Dawn says

    Brilliant podcast and article. I feel encouraged in my multiple leaps of faith! I loved the information in this podcast, but my appetite is also whetted for more info about how to change your mindset!
    Thanks again Joanna.

  6. Chanty Jong says

    Hi Stephanie J Hale.
    My name is Chanty. Please, please, please, help me. I think I made a mistake. I told and gave all my life story (diaries and document) informations to a person who want to write my life story into a book. I go to schools, libraries, and churches to speak about my life experiences. I met her in the audience, she asked me to write my life story into a book. I do not know her or where she lives. She came to meet me at where I live and I told her everything she need to write in the book. She did not reply to me either through email or call me for two to three months now. I feel cheated and frustrated. I had nothing left to write my own book someday. You are an expert, do you have any advice for me. How to stop this person stealing my real life story and make her own profit without my permission. Would you be kind and reply to me through my email I will feel very very grateful and less frustrated. I am waiting for you to answer me. Thank you so much.
    Chanty Jong

    • says

      Hi Chanty,
      I wouldn’t worry about this at all. There is no ‘gold’ in an idea alone, so no matter what you told this lady, it is the execution that matters. You can write your story yourself, and she cannot steal your life just like that. Most likely that she won’t do anything at all. The hard work is in writing the book, not talking about it. So you should just get on and write something yourself.
      All the best, Joanna

  7. says

    A very informative and useful advice, tank you both Joanna and Stefanie. A lot of tips that the experts have emphasized the significance of, such as building an email list, YouTube videos, etc. I am also thrilled about thinking how fictional writers can benefit from YouTube.
    As a East European, I was glad to hear you mention the rush of them to UK and London in particular (I myself know a few friends who went to UK). I agree, everyone is a market place.
    I have a specific question: I know you translate your books in different languages and you recommend some sites but I am from a small niche group – Bulgarian, from the Slovenian language family. I found a translator already, that’s not the hard part. The difficulty is finding a very good native editor who will transform the work into the next level. If You have any advice, feel free to write to me here or on Twitter or elsewhere.
    By the way, I bought your book “How to market a book” and I am waiting for your update on it (as you wrote to me in the email I send you a while ago).
    Thanks in advance.


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